I'm new here but I've read enough to know that pricing and putting a value on a watch is taboo here and I hope this post isn't crossing the line. I'm currently in the process of finding a local person with whom I trust to service and inspect it to ensure it stays in the family for a long time. I've always like watches, and after receiving my grandfathers, inspecting it and researching information on it, I've discovered what wonders of art and marvels of engineering these things are. I'm new to all of this, just recently inherited my grandfathers 1930 Illinois Watch Co. Author Meggers, Bill and Roy Ehrhardt Format/binding Paperback Book condition Used - Very Good Jacket condition No Jacket Edition First Printing Binding Paperback ISBN 10 0913902349 ISBN 13 9780913902349 Publisher Heart of America Press Place of Publication Kansas. American Pocket Watch Encyclopedia and Price Guide, Volume 2, Illinois Watch Co.
But I see several watch "models", such as a Bunn Special 60 hour, that sell for anywhere from $200 to $300, others of the same type sell for between $500 to $700 and then I've seen some that are asking upwards of $1,000. So I understand why a Bunn Special RR grade watch would sell for a lot more than a "typical" Illinois watch, such as the one I've got. I looked at watches on eBay and noticed that some command a higher asking price than others, such as the Bunn or Sangamo specials. I've really become fascinated by these watches and am interested in collecting, but I'm having a difficult time wrapping my head around the costs and pricing for these.
What determines this? I know a solid gold case would make a difference, but other than that does the case make a huge difference in value? Are there other things that must be considered to determine the value of a watch? Is there a resource that can be used to help determine the value of a watch? I'm very interesting in collecting several of these as they are beautiful works of art, but I'm hesitant to jump right in. The date of production may only be several years difference but the asking price discrepancy can be several hundred dollars apart. The jewel count and positions are the same. What is causing my confusion is that the only differences I see in some of these are the case.
(1,755) liked on Polyvore featuring jewelry, watches, enamel, antique pocket.You may find the Encyclopedia article entitled "Beginning Watch Collecting" helpful, but it sounds like you have already started working your way through the process of understanding collecting watches.Another factor in determining the value, which may not be apparent to a novice, is the originality of the parts (hands, dial, case, movement components) and their appropriateness for the particular watch. For this reason, a mechanical pocket watch should not only be fully wound, but the time should also be reset daily.Welcome to the NAWCC American Pocket Watch Message Board!Pre-Owned 1906 Illinois Railroad 18 size Gold Filled Pocket Watch -. This is due to temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure and altitude affecting the movement. 1d 6h.Mechanical pocket watches typically have an accuracy +/- 60 seconds within a 24 hour period. Ending Saturday at 4:06PM PDT. What other considerations must be taken into account besides the condition of the movement (running & keeping time), the dial (cracks or chips), and the case (materials) to best determine the value of a watch? Why do some watches listed on eBay vary so much in asking price? Is it just pipe dreams by the seller who are asking too much or are some of these really worth that much more than others that are similar? If so, why and what determines that value?Rare 1904 Illinois / Washington Watch Co.
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I have a lot more reading to do. I did not see the encyclopedia link, thanks for pointing it out for me. In a nutshell, what's it worth to YOU. I've got other collecting hobbies and I know that some things are overpriced for what they're actually worth, but the selling price is typically determined by what the seller is willing to let it go for and what the buyer is willing to pay. The information in the Illinois Watch Company Encyclopedia article, especially the links in the References section, will give you a good start in learning what parts belong together.If your interest extends beyond Illinois, the Encyclopedia articles listed in these links may also be helpful to you.You may also find the following Encyclopedia articles useful in understanding pocket watches and the terms that are used in discussing them:Please feel free to ask about anything that isn't clear to you.Thank you for the replies.
These were made to look like American watches 75 or 100 years ago (or more). You should always be cautious and aware of this, but is it a rampant problem?Click to expand.There are watches that are referred to as being a Swiss Fake. One further question that just occurred to me - are there known issues with fakes or counterfeits on eBay? I know online sellers generally wouldn't sell a knock-off as this could damage their reputation, but a throw away account on eBay provides an opportunity for an enterprising less than reputable person to pawn off a fake for a lot of money. This will help in determining a genuine piece.
However, are known counterfeits of very expensive (> $5,000) examples of other brands. For these, you're gong to have to do your homework and learn what a real Illinois watch looks like.There aren't any current day counterfeits in the sense that a whole pocket watch has been made to appear to be an Illinois pocket watch (wrist watches may be a different subject). So, there are a lot of very nice Illinois watches out there with strange names on them, such as this recent example.
Then, there are a number of dealers who are careful to point out when they think that something may have been changed (or that they changed it themselves). But there are a lot of very experienced dealers who know full well when something is not right but will not mention it. Inexperienced sellers don't know what's right and can't really be blamed for not pointing these things out.
When the 992B came out, it did not use the friction type of endstones found on the 161Bs (and the 992 Elinvar test example. I haven't been following the subject very closely, lately! There was one 992 Elinvar (without serial number) in the Hamilton collection that had the same style of friction jeweling as the 161B.It is likely that the testing included feedback from watchmakers and railroad watch inspectors, and apparently it paid off for Hamilton. It would be funny, if it were not sad to see collectors throwing away their money like that.Wowie! $37,000 and $39,000 for the 161Bs that were most likely intended by Hamilton as a field test in the mid-1930s for friction jeweling on a railroad watch? So far all examples that I am aware of have fallen into a range of 50 serial numbers, but it is possible that others have since come to light.
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